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Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:03 pm
by gandb
My players are entering in valakas lair, but only one make the quest.
Is it an exploit? How does it work on retail?
The "exploit" is, 1 sumonner make the quets and call all players to crystal room.
Waht happens in retail?
Other point is:
The Valakas AI iths very very large file, few functions and many many many "ifs" and "sub ifs". Wouldn't be a good idea to make a rework on the script?
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:16 pm
by janiii
behind Klein, all the zone should be a no-summon zone. this is a bug on l2j as the zone is smaller than it should be.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:45 pm
by Aikimaniac
janiii wrote:behind Klein, all the zone should be a no-summon zone. this is a bug on l2j as the zone is smaller than it should be.
Wrong...its zone where you need to have finished quest (the same as Hellbound) and those who have finished quest and obtained the quest item needed to enter valaka lair can be summoned..the same on HB...
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:54 pm
by janiii
Aikimaniac wrote:janiii wrote:behind Klein, all the zone should be a no-summon zone. this is a bug on l2j as the zone is smaller than it should be.
Wrong...its zone where you need to have finished quest (the same as Hellbound) and those who have finished quest and obtained the quest item needed to enter valaka lair can be summoned..the same on HB...
and the quest item will be consumed when you are being summoned into the zone?
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:08 pm
by Aikimaniac
you mean Valakas Lair ? You need it to enter the doors to valakas afaik... problem on L2J is that the "step" behind Klein on retail isnt possible to walk or jump over...on L2J its geodata problem that ppl enter... i will check for the item consume when i go there again

or i ask some summoner to summon me there

not sure if i can manage this on retail or PTS...will see

Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:27 pm
by Sandro
Medvedik wrote that summoner couldnt summon him behind Klein.. so everybody has to enter through Klein and he takes Vaculiate orb or whatever item it is.. on L2j its possible to jump through geodata if you know how and enter without a quest.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:09 am
by Maitrechat
As temp fix for that, you can make a verification of possession of the floating stone whitout removing it at Klein and only take it at the Heart of Volcano.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:15 am
by janiii
Maitrechat wrote:As temp fix for that, you can make a verification of possession of the floating stone whitout removing it at Klein and only take it at the Heart of Volcano.
i made this modification too on my server

Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:37 pm
by kerberos_20
well..that area behind klein...
its not true that u need to have finished quest
at this location there are (should be) 2 zones, klein will give u access to enter these zones (once u give him that floating stone)
so zones work same way as boss zones, but im not sure if with current boss zones we can have 2 zones and walking within eachother without porting once u leave and reenter...
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:20 pm
by gandb
Good idea, technically it would be equal to the Retail. In Retail is different only because the engine is different, the idea is the same.
Maitrechat wrote:As temp fix for that, you can make a verification of possession of the floating stone whitout removing it at Klein and only take it at the Heart of Volcano.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:23 pm
by gandb
Another possibility is, once done the quest to create a second item while Valakas not be killed. And create a new check in hit valaks to teleport if not have this new item.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:59 am
by Maitrechat
First I wanted to create the zone but when you look at the map it's scary

So if someone have a better idea I'm interrested.
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:15 am
by gandb
Maybe, if the map title and zone name was different.
Example title and name and not only name.

Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:36 pm
by kerberos_20
here should be npoly points to that zones (dunno if both,untested, but description says 25_14 area, so should be it) and it really should be as raid zones, coz at these zones isnt possible to restart client (on disconnect 30 min for return)
1st
{{183373;-117179;-3326;-1326};{184098;-116718;-3326;-1326};{184137;-115290;-3326;-1326};{183970;-115002;-3326;-1326};{183673;-114982;-3326;-1326};{182400;-115593;-3326;-1326};{182338;-116737;-3326;-1326}}
2nd
{{183432;-117590;-2208;792};{196325;-119107;-2208;792};{196377;-103657;-2208;792};{187161;-103538;-2208;792}}
Re: Valakas doubts and rework (dont is newbie doubt ^^)
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:58 pm
by gandb
EN: Tanxs Kerberos,
PT: Obrigado Kerberos,
EN:But I have a doubt, I need to update zone_vertices table? If yes, what's the new zone id?
PT:Mas eu tenho uma dúvida, preciso atualizar a tabela zone_vertices ? Se sim, qual o novo id da zone?
EN:Today Valakas Zone id is 12008
PT:Atualmente o id de Valkas Zone é 12008
EN:And what does the code below mean? x,y,z,?
PT:E o que significa o código abaixo? x,y,z?
Code: Select all
1st{{183373;-117179;-3326;-1326};{184098;-116718;-3326;-1326};{184137;-115290;-3326;-1326};{183970;-115002;-3326;-1326};{183673;-114982;-3326;-1326};{182400;-115593;-3326;-1326};{182338;-116737;-3326;-1326}} 2nd{{183432;-117590;-2208;792};{196325;-119107;-2208;792};{196377;-103657;-2208;792};{187161;-103538;-2208;792}}
EN:Do I need to create new zone vertices in this exatcly order?
PT:Eu preciso criar novas zone verticies nesta exata ordem?
EN: Sorry, but I did not undertand ...
PT:Desculpe, mas não entendi...
