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Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:52 am
by Szponiasty

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:42 pm
by MELERIX
too late I guess, I told you guys about it 2 weeks ago, also yesterday it was approved by most of the Euro contries.

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:18 pm
by theone
MELERIX wrote:too late I guess, I told you guys about it 2 weeks ago, also yesterday it was approved by most of the Euro contries.
I guess you said it in the dev forum :) We're not autorized to see it...

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:56 pm
by ir00

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:54 am
by Aikimaniac
MELERIX wrote:too late I guess, I told you guys about it 2 weeks ago, also yesterday it was approved by most of the Euro contries.
You mentioned SOPA which covers USA only...there was no word about ACTA and till now really low number knew about it in EU..and i think there will be really massive protests in EU...just curious which EU countries really signed that shit..afaik, my country didnt till now.. i hope they wont later as well..

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:28 am
by Szponiasty
Aikimaniac wrote:
MELERIX wrote:too late I guess, I told you guys about it 2 weeks ago, also yesterday it was approved by most of the Euro contries.
You mentioned SOPA which covers USA only...there was no word about ACTA and till now really low number knew about it in EU..and i think there will be really massive protests in EU...just curious which EU countries really signed that shit..afaik, my country didnt till now.. i hope they wont later as well..
Most countries signed, including USA, Japan, Australia and most EU countries (except 5 as i recall). Still not to late, cause ACTA needs to be passed through EU parliament for it to go "live". Still can be canceled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQdMtSmkVBs

People protest on the streets in Poland. Government had 44% citizens support. Dropped to below 30% (and going down) in few days, when ACTAgate came out to public.

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:34 am
by MELERIX
Aikimaniac wrote:You mentioned SOPA which covers USA only...there was no word about ACTA and till now really low number knew about it in EU..and i think there will be really massive protests in EU...just curious which EU countries really signed that shit..afaik, my country didnt till now.. i hope they wont later as well..
yes, well... but is more or less the same at the end... SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, TPP, etc.

I hope all this NWO shit is cancelled or the internet as we know will die, we still have p2p networks as alternative but is not the same, because not all people use it.

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:15 pm
by pokiokio
Greece signed it as well. >.<

Seriously, haven't they had enough? Can't they just print money and swim in it? Whoever came up and is supporting this should die...

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:16 pm
by theone
Since they're copyright infringement laws, what effects will they have on L2J?
I mean... emulators are very much borderline with copyright infringement, on a gray line.

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:35 pm
by Szponiasty
Dunno 100%. But from what I've read in ACTA, its so very unprecise, that I think NCZ0ft could easily block/kill L2J if ACTA went to life.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwG2I27i ... r_embedded#!

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:35 pm
by MELERIX
if the censorship (ACTA, HADOPI, PIPA, SOPA, SINDE, TPP, etc) is approved around the world, any "Generic thing" that work as an alterative of the original one, could be illegal.

so yes... this include emulators too, any "generic product".

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Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:21 pm
by Aikimaniac
I think with ACTA and other shit agreements are all areas where are used copyrighted materials in danger, also open souce projects like L2J, L2J servers included.....

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:42 pm
by theone
Now the big question is... where are L2J's website, forum, svn and trac hosted?
Are these countries who signed ACTA? And would it be a good idea to think about relocating?

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:38 pm
by Evilus
theone wrote:Now the big question is... where are L2J's website, forum, svn and trac hosted?
Are these countries who signed ACTA? And would it be a good idea to think about relocating?
TO headhunt a country which DID NOT sign the acta is just a pain since like 98% of countries signed it unless you want to have some like random african country. Not to mention it still has to go through the EU-parlament to be official, at least in Europe. Not sure how it is for US, Australia and Asia.

Re: Stop the ACTA guys!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:40 pm
by theone
This thing is really going to be a pain in the but for everyone :evil: