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Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:32 pm
by Flashy
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Hi,
the resist of elemental should cut off, if breakpoint of attk attribute and Resi Attribute is reached.

now, if you attack, for example, a mob with no ele resi with a-grade weapon without ele I do 300 damage.
If I use a buff that gives me ele attack attribut like "seed of water" i do 280 damage.
It seems in this case the ele damage is reduced by the ele damage value...

you can test this.. its recreateable...

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:59 pm
by _DS_
Retail tests ? :roll:

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:16 pm
by gigiikun
Mob without element resist :shock: . What mob did you used for this?

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:35 pm
by Flashy
ok, I make a second test this evening with mobs and player vs player and post stats and results, for better understanding..
you can then have a look of this, it can be, maybe u think or know this is correct, but the I know it and I can explain it to my community...

@DS I don't say it is wrong or right, I wanna know if it is... :-)

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by Natla
Flashy wrote:ok, I make a second test this evening with mobs and player vs player and post stats and results, for better understanding..
you can then have a look of this, it can be, maybe u think or know this is correct, but the I know it and I can explain it to my community...

@DS I don't say it is wrong or right, I wanna know if it is... :-)
ur confusing me, as far as i know the elements resist is working fine. but post the screen shots to have a better idea of what do u really mean

include ID of the mob u tested!

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:12 pm
by _DS_
Most mobs have base elemental resist +20 to all.

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:25 pm
by JoeDaFlow
Where can you define the mobs resists to elements?

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:41 pm
by Flashy
JoeDaFlow wrote:Where can you define the mobs resists to elements?
npc_elementals table in Database...
hmm.. _DS_ your right with mobs.. I will test it myself player vs. player.. maybe our GM's are wrong...

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:50 pm
by Flashy
ok I found it what I try to explain:

http://www.lineage2.com/news/freya_09.html

•Defense attribute resistance has changed (when the defense attribute amount is higher than the attack attribute). For example, if an attacker's attribute value is 50, and the defense attribute value on a target is 100, the damage amount will be the same if the defense value was 50.

..and on L2j Server if the defense value get higher the the damage decrease...

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:52 pm
by gigiikun
For me it is not decrease, so I do not know where and how you test so please write here how you manage to decrease the dmg.

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:29 pm
by Flashy
gigiikun wrote:For me it is not decrease, so I do not know where and how you test so please write here how you manage to decrease the dmg.

Let me explain what I did.
take char with no atk attr. no ele on weapon.
Testmob = ID 20968 nonexisting man. Ele resi Mob = 20.

attacking mob with hits (no skills) Result = between 245 and 267 damage.

then put 20 ele to weapon. Now I attack with 20 ele again 20 ele resi mob.
Result the damage is between 201 and 220 now.

why I did lesser damage with ele attribute as without?
is 20 resi again 20 attk attribute not the same damage as without ele?

please explain it to me, I only want to understand it

Thanks!

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:48 pm
by gigiikun
I cant reproduce your result.
For me no element without shoot 120-180dmg.
With 20 fire element 120-180dmg.

Re: Elemental Damage / Resist Formulars

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:08 am
by Flashy
gigiikun wrote:I cant reproduce your result.
For me no element without shoot 120-180dmg.
With 20 fire element 120-180dmg.
Hi gigiikun,

after some intensiv test I agree with your result.
L2j Elemental Resi is working well :D

Sorry for this inconvenience.

next time I will do better tests, before I post a problem and waste your time.. :roll:

cheers