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Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:38 pm
by filipehdbr
L2J Revision 4422
L2JDP Revision 7669

All skills that needs the char to hold ctrl in order to cast spell on enemy are actually not needing to hold ctrl. Wondering if this is a known bug and how to possibly fix

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:40 pm
by hope
Are you testing on a gm or non gm char is it in the arena oly siege etc etc more info

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:04 am
by filipehdbr
player player anywhere anytime

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:39 am
by JIV
this is not enough info, post whole situation + conditions of both player.

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:44 am
by Szponiasty
filipehdbr wrote:player player anywhere anytime
What about clan wars? You sure that not in 2 sided clan war? Not experienced that problem. But I would want to ask a little question very much connected to the topic:
Any1 know how on retail work skills for unsummoning opponent summon, when they are in 2 sided clan war? I have it made requiring to hold Ctrl for use if player is not flagged. Someone noticed me that its possible to be a bug but on the other hand, unsummoning summons for other char without any consequences is not like using stunning shot and appears to me somehow not fitting the picture. Thx for any help on the matter, cause I've ran out of places to find answer - except going retail, making and exping char, finding clan with wars to join... :D

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:07 am
by Hitokiri
Szponiasty wrote:
filipehdbr wrote:player player anywhere anytime
What about clan wars? You sure that not in 2 sided clan war? Not experienced that problem. But I would want to ask a little question very much connected to the topic:
Any1 know how on retail work skills for unsummoning opponent summon, when they are in 2 sided clan war? I have it made requiring to hold Ctrl for use if player is not flagged. Someone noticed me that its possible to be a bug but on the other hand, unsummoning summons for other char without any consequences is not like using stunning shot and appears to me somehow not fitting the picture. Thx for any help on the matter, cause I've ran out of places to find answer - except going retail, making and exping char, finding clan with wars to join... :D
You meen about the skill Erase? It works only when both players are in pvp. U cant use it if the oponent (summoner) doesnt hit u. The same for Clan Wars and Olimpiade. In other words both players need to be fragged.

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:32 pm
by filipehdbr
For instance, the heal spell.

I got 2 regular players, not GM, not in clan, not in war, not in arena, not in anything special. One can heal each other without holding ctrl.

If try to heal mob, then it needs ctrl. Means, it is OK for mobs but like broken for players

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:28 pm
by _DS_
There are offensive, and non-offensive skills. Offensive require ctrl pressed.

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:57 pm
by filipehdbr
Sorry I wasnt clear.. It is during the PVP.. heal should need ctrl but it is not needing

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:10 pm
by Szponiasty
Hitokiri wrote:
Szponiasty wrote:
filipehdbr wrote:player player anywhere anytime
What about clan wars? You sure that not in 2 sided clan war? Not experienced that problem. But I would want to ask a little question very much connected to the topic:
Any1 know how on retail work skills for unsummoning opponent summon, when they are in 2 sided clan war? I have it made requiring to hold Ctrl for use if player is not flagged. Someone noticed me that its possible to be a bug but on the other hand, unsummoning summons for other char without any consequences is not like using stunning shot and appears to me somehow not fitting the picture. Thx for any help on the matter, cause I've ran out of places to find answer - except going retail, making and exping char, finding clan with wars to join... :D
You meen about the skill Erase? It works only when both players are in pvp. U cant use it if the oponent (summoner) doesnt hit u. The same for Clan Wars and Olimpiade. In other words both players need to be fragged.
Yepp. Ty. So just as I though... Btw any chance we know each other from HellSpawn Clan server?

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:36 pm
by Hitokiri
Szponiasty wrote: Yepp. Ty. So just as I though... Btw any chance we know each other from HellSpawn Clan server?
Can be played on many servers. :mrgreen:
filipehdbr wrote:Sorry I wasnt clear.. It is during the PVP.. heal should need ctrl but it is not needing
I think not all heals. Can u say what skill it is Batle Heal Self Heal Group Heal and what race because as i remember bishop dont need ctrl for his heals :|

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:14 pm
by filipehdbr
Ive made another simple test. Ive created some mystic human char then learn the HEAL skill.

Tried to heal a mob and didnt work, it needs ctrl pressed (RIGHT - OK!)
Tried to heal an enemy without doing PVP, it does not need ctrl pressed (RIGHT - OK!)
Started PVP with another player, both purple, and tried to HEAL enemy. It didnt need ctrl pressed. I think this is wrong, it should need CTRL pressed in order to heal the pvp enemy

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:25 pm
by jurchiks
try it on official using trial account...

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:22 pm
by a13xsus
filipehdbr wrote:Ive made another simple test. Ive created some mystic human char then learn the HEAL skill.
Started PVP with another player, both purple, and tried to HEAL enemy. It didnt need ctrl pressed. I think this is wrong, it should need CTRL pressed in order to heal the pvp enemy
Yes, it's not retail like.
Also clan members (outside your's party) in Colliseum and duel cannot be attacked without pressing Ctrl. In retail you don't need press Ctrl to attack a clan member or a party member_in_duel.

Re: Skills on enemy not needing to hold ctrl

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:00 pm
by Flashy
a13xsus wrote:
filipehdbr wrote:Ive made another simple test. Ive created some mystic human char then learn the HEAL skill.
Started PVP with another player, both purple, and tried to HEAL enemy. It didnt need ctrl pressed. I think this is wrong, it should need CTRL pressed in order to heal the pvp enemy
Yes, it's not retail like.
Also clan members (outside your's party) in Colliseum and duel cannot be attacked without pressing Ctrl. In retail you don't need press Ctrl to attack a clan member or a party member_in_duel.
we are talking about "heal". this is not a attack... you don't need ctrl..
confirmed retail..(any kind of heal.. group heal, heal, battle..all heals..),
no, and heal buffs don't need ctrl. <-- if someone is asking :)