[Idea] How to clean your server from cheaters!

[momo61]

As we all know, cheaters are everywhere. Even the ones we usually think of as "honest players" cheat when they see a brand new cheat posted on a cheating forum. So, how do we catch them?

Now, this is my idea:

We first of all determine what packet to send to the server in order to trigger a message like "player X from account Y sent an obsolete waypoint packet" or something similar.

Then, we take that packet, and we/I post it in an elaborate cheating post on cheating forums claiming that with PHX and this code, you can either lag/crash a server, or you can increase something like your stats and no one would ever notice you used it.

When players read of cheats like that, and that they'd work on Gracia Epilogue, I can guarantee you that almost everyone would try it on your server. Either with his main character or alt characters. And once he does, he'll spam the logs and you got him good and ready for a ban.

What do you think?

[Vapulabe]

The claim will be debunked very fast, probably before you've any of your players using it...

As for any forum, if you're quite new and never posted any cheat before, the "old one" saying that the cheat is a fake will be the one who will be trusted !!!

[babyjason]

i might say momo had a good ideea. just think of how the great movies and Music companies fight torrent shares/kazaa and similar...theypost FAKE Music track with real names and lenght.

so yes, best way to fight freakin phx crap and cheat is for those really good with java as l2j admins to post code on Maxcheaters stating it works, also they could make code that freez or even restart cheaters pc, and so on.

post 100 false cheats, and you ll find 10 000 ppl not even trying to cheat no more, because of the so many fake ratio compared to real ones, it would make a waste of time.

great ideea. maybe the best to fight freakin maxcheaters and sh2t like that.

[Vapulabe]

Except that you'll get banned from Maxcheaters and similar...
Unlike (MAF)IAA, you don't have a nearly unlimited range of IP addresses available.

[ZaKaX]

I think that if Einstein wasn't known I wouldn't have been able to find a name to describe you.

[Forsaiken]

As we all know, cheaters are everywhere. Even the ones we usually think of as "honest players" cheat when they see a brand new cheat posted on a cheating forum. So, how do we catch them?

Now, this is my idea:

We first of all determine what packet to send to the server in order to trigger a message like "player X from account Y sent an obsolete waypoint packet" or something similar.

Then, we take that packet, and we/I post it in an elaborate cheating post on cheating forums claiming that with PHX and this code, you can either lag/crash a server, or you can increase something like your stats and no one would ever notice you used it.

When players read of cheats like that, and that they'd work on Gracia Epilogue, I can guarantee you that almost everyone would try it on your server. Either with his main character or alt characters. And once he does, he'll spam the logs and you got him good and ready for a ban.

What do you think?

That made me lol hard.

[BiggBoss]

also why not send the swat to his house?

[Intrepid]

Except that you'll get banned from Maxcheaters and similar...
Unlike (MAF)IAA, you don't have a nearly unlimited range of IP addresses available.

Doesnt matter if you are banned the mxc stuff especially the admin is way to well "mentally retarded" to give you ip bann you just delete cookies spam everything to hell(you dont get anything except maybe -1 or -2 karma but who cares)you see again the hidden post and done...

The idea is quite nice but theres another possible thing that can be done and alredy on the way which is kill maxcheaters since its the only popular cheating forum and its on the verge of dieing so...thats just time matter and if no mxc around ppl will dont have cheats ok we still have a few guys who will try to find new exploits but its not that huge like now when you have thousands of shared exploits.

[momo61]

i hope it dies

[Intrepid]

i hope it dies

You hope it i know it I was in the staff long enough to have tons of "inside infos" about the forum

[Copyleft]

The best way to clean a server from cheaters is fixing all exploits. Let them exploit anything from your server, the more they exploit the more you fix and the better software you have. When coding new features you will have past exploits in mind, so you won't make the same error again. Instead of spreading false information about exploits, I would encourage people to post all their real exploits on maxcheaters

[Intrepid]

The best way to clean a server from cheaters is fixing all exploits. Let them exploit anything from your server, the more they exploit the more you fix and the better software you have. When coding new features you will have past exploits in mind, so you won't make the same error again. Instead of spreading false information about exploits, I would encourage people to post all their real exploits on maxcheaters

Okay and lets see what if they found a bigger exploit(just remember what the chat character limit thing did)and before you fix the exploit they crash your server ok you fix it but you lost a big amount of players i dont think its worth it.

[Copyleft]

The best way to clean a server from cheaters is fixing all exploits. Let them exploit anything from your server, the more they exploit the more you fix and the better software you have. When coding new features you will have past exploits in mind, so you won't make the same error again. Instead of spreading false information about exploits, I would encourage people to post all their real exploits on maxcheaters

Okay and lets see what if they found a bigger exploit(just remember what the chat character limit thing did)and before you fix the exploit they crash your server ok you fix it but you lost a big amount of players i dont think its worth it.

It's better to have knowledge of the exploits, than not to have. Imagine it's not posted, would be even worse because you wouldn't know what it is and your server would keep crashing.

[Intrepid]

The best way to clean a server from cheaters is fixing all exploits. Let them exploit anything from your server, the more they exploit the more you fix and the better software you have. When coding new features you will have past exploits in mind, so you won't make the same error again. Instead of spreading false information about exploits, I would encourage people to post all their real exploits on maxcheaters

Okay and lets see what if they found a bigger exploit(just remember what the chat character limit thing did)and before you fix the exploit they crash your server ok you fix it but you lost a big amount of players i dont think its worth it.

It's better to have knowledge of the exploits, than not to have. Imagine it's not posted, would be even worse because you wouldn't know what it is and your server would keep crashing.

So you take the high risk over dont let ppl know about exploits pretty weird way because if you think about it just like i said if there are no shared exploits we still have exploiters BUT its not that common like now when you have thousands of exploits and you can still recover the way they do it from logs

[macdonald12]

So you take the high risk over dont let ppl know about exploits pretty weird way because if you think about it just like i said if there are no shared exploits we still have exploiters BUT its not that common like now when you have thousands of exploits and you can still recover the way they do it from logs

Alot of exploits don't leave obvious traces, and if you don't know what you're looking for it can be a helluva tedious and frustrating job to find and fix it.

As for the current situation, if i suspect a new exploit's being used, i simply log onto MaxCheaters and -what do you know - it's posted right there, sometimes even stickied. That forum actually helps nullify its own purpose