L2J Server

RSP - Random spawn point.

As many probably know at official server Lineage2 used random spawn. But in l2jserver each monster has a "fixed" point of spawn. I don't know java programming language and I can't realize it, but I can suggest how this might work.

Create a special file format *. xml (similar to zone) which recorded the coordinates of the square, the circle(points of boundaries).
A further set of monsters that spawns ID in the area, their number and respawn time.

For example, take a zone Gorgon Flawer Garden (near Giran Castle), in:
Turak Bugbear - 15 mobs, it respawn lasted 20 seconds.
Turak Bugbear Warrior - 10 mobs, 30 seconds respawn time.
Harpy - 18 mobs, 15 sec respawn time.

it might look like this: As a result, we get something similar to the hexagon in which the random field spawns different mobs.

EDIT: Subject changed by Aikimaniac

If on retail respawns are not like a list on each zone, we could handle this server side creating zones on server startup so that each spawn is owned by a zone and on every time a mob is killed it can be spawned on any point of the zone (calculated randomly)

This is exactly the same as seting a min/max x,y,z for every spawn

retail works like there are "milions" of spawn zones and each zone has defined how many mobs with defined ID can be spawned in one moment... this way is also done the check when mob is too far from his zone (not spawnpoint) that he returns after some time of inactivity on the shortest path back...so he doesnt come back to his spawnpoint but to border of his zone (im talking about mobs and not RBs...)

spawn zones

This is circles around some basic points or rectangles? Or may be abstract predefined areas? You have idea how they define zones?

In retail mobs have static spawn, but random when they death in radius like 150~200 obviously checking geodata XD

is like this...
But for mobs

Reimu wrote:

spawn zones

This is circles around some basic points or rectangles? Or may be abstract predefined areas? You have idea how they define zones?

no....npoly...various shapes...

MELERIX wrote:In retail mobs have static spawn, but random when they death in radius like 150~200 obviously checking geodata XD

is like this...

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# This will allow random re-spawning in towns if enabled based on a maximum random offset from the base re-spawn coordinates.# DEFAULT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED, MUST BE CHANGED HERE AND IN CONFIG.JAVA IF NOT CORRECT# Default: True, 50RespawnRandomInTown = TrueRespawnRandomMaxOffset = 50

But for mobs

Melerix..open your favorite files and check npcpos.txt and there are zones listed...there is no fix spawnpoint on retail..zone based system is more difficult and better but hard to code since we dont have all needed zones...

Talk to Elektra. She's done quite a bit of research on this recently. And Aiki is sort of right, each mob has a number of designated spawns, then from each of those spawn points, it has a random x and random y generated off of that (this is based on her intentional observations on an area over a specific time period).

Either that or every mob has a stationary spawn and a massive random x and random y.

BUT... our biggest issues are:
1. Mobs, when randomized, need to have proper z coords, this is especially true in hilly areas and whatnot. How do we automate this? How does the server know not to spawn a mob in the ground or stuck halfway in a hillside or floating if the z axis changes for the ground level?

2. Mobs also need to check for walls and know where to spawn so as to avoid them.

Until these two problems are solved, we will need to either NOT implement randomx/randomy values, OR we need to do it ONLY for mobs in areas where those issues are not present (flat terrain with few or no walls).

in some special files is defined zone and for this zone are defined mobids,count of this mobs and respawn time..there is no spawnpoint at all...on retail are mobs spawns checked by geodata and cant be spawned in texture.. check some special files which ive mentioned and you will see...if you need example, we can talk on IRC in 12 hours or PM...

Aikimaniac wrote:in some special files is defined zone and for this zone are defined mobids,count of this mobs and respawn time..there is no spawnpoint at all...on retail are mobs spawns checked by geodata and cant be spawned in texture.. check some special files which ive mentioned and you will see...if you need example, we can talk on IRC in 12 hours or PM...

Sadly it doesn't seem that there can be a solution then until we get 100% geodata.

toastgodsupreme wrote: Sadly it doesn't seem that there can be a solution then until we get 100% geodata.

lets say we have 100 percent geodata files (even if those are not 100 percent)...the geoengine we use compared to retail is kinda "lite" version with many bugs...to work on it needs alot experiences and since Sami is kinda KIA, we need to wait until some specialist appears (to be honest, there is no one experienced as Sami was even on forks) who has a bit experiences with "other platform" of freeservers and can help with doing it retail like or somebody else to do it from scratch after he has been on retail observing behaviour of spawnsystem there...

If there is a problem geodata, then there can not use this system, and let there spawn mob from `spawnlist`. Until this problem is not corrected.

Dont forget about monsters witch "spawned in order" like: good monster (good drop\exp\...) + bad agro monsters always near them, so you newer can kill good monster without agros. How it possible if spawn points absolutely random in some zone? I think spawn behavior is more difficultly.

If there is a problem geodata, then there can not use this system, and let there spawn mob from `spawnlist`. Until this problem is not corrected.

No, we need new spawn behavior depend on enabled\disabled geodata :)

Still no volonteers to fix Z coords for spawns and move invalid spawns (in the walls and stones), that are you talking about ?
I remember only Droppo's fix for it.

_DS_ wrote:Still no volonteers to fix Z coords for spawns and move invalid spawns (in the walls and stones), that are you talking about ?
I remember only Droppo's fix for it.

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