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Re: Against bots

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:55 am
by Pere
ThePhoenixBird wrote:
Migi wrote:
ThePhoenixBird wrote:Can you code it to show up in a pop-up box?

Big shiny letters if possible :P
This is frustrating... if L2 has not pop-ups we cannot do that.. and big shiny letters neither.

Well... Say2.PARTYROOM_COMMANDER is maybe a solution for you xD


Seriously, if someone is only sending [farming-packets] (moveto, target, attack....) a Say2.WHISP would be enough. But not a sysmsg!
If sure that there are some pop-up around there, i will ask to a core dev :P
There is. But only with yes/no or ok button.
Ah well, there is the NPC or Quest window option! That would be a nice idea too :D

Re: Against bots

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:45 pm
by Qarked
why removing my post?

Re: Against bots

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:47 pm
by _DS_
Because of commercial advertising.

Re: Against bots

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:15 pm
by Qarked
But it was the unique effective way against bots! Wish to tell it bad idea? But it devilishly real!

Re: Against bots

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:56 pm
by Sirpaypi
For me the unique effective way against bots are GM POLICE and some nice player, and in the 2nd way coding will speak.

Re: Against bots

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:17 am
by DeGato
Sirpaypi wrote:effective way against bots are GM POLICE and some nice player
Indeed!

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:02 pm
by Lee
I coded it for my server.. here's how it works:

* First it detects if you farm (killing mobs etc).
* You got 5 levels of farming.. if you kill for ex. 100 mobs you get 1st level and get notified every 15 mins with that popup and so more for the next levels.
* If you type the code you're free to go ,but you have a limited time of 30 seconds to reply.
* If you don't type it ,you get kicked and logged.
* If you aren't killing any mobs ,you will get it only once per 2 hours or more.

and it actually works pretty well :p tested on live ,i'll test more things and new ideas to add and then i'll share it here ^^

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:50 pm
by savormix
Lee wrote:I coded it for my server.. here's how it works:

* If you aren't killing any mobs ,you will get it only once per 2 hours or more.
The idea is good. Good enough, although IDK how you display the code so it wouldn't be easily replied to by a bot.

P.S. You must have banned a lot of private store users.

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:54 pm
by gio
savormix wrote:P.S. You must have banned a lot of private store users.
Isn't it possible to check if player is in private store mode or not?

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:06 pm
by Lee
savormix wrote:
Lee wrote:I coded it for my server.. here's how it works:

* If you aren't killing any mobs ,you will get it only once per 2 hours or more.
The idea is good. Good enough, although IDK how you display the code so it wouldn't be easily replied to by a bot.

P.S. You must have banned a lot of private store users.
Well for now it doesn't generate it like automaticly numbers & letters ,but only a Rnd.get(100) and cases.. For each case it has an code. It will be this way until i find a way to generate unique letters & numbers.

And no ,it has a check if user is in private store or not ^^

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:45 pm
by savormix
But ehm... If you send it as a html or a system message, only an idiot will not be able to create a script for the botting program which counters it. UNLESS you find a way to show images, but in a way that their name would not identify the letter/word (so LINEAGEII or NCZ0ft item pics wont work).

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:27 pm
by BiggBoss
Try this:
Randomnly a color is generated.
Then, and html with 4 liks with different colors pop up, 1, the randomly generated
If you dont click the correct one, you are in jail

Re: Against bots

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:03 pm
by Lee
B1ggBoss wrote:Try this:
Randomnly a color is generated.
Then, and html with 4 liks with different colors pop up, 1, the randomly generated
If you dont click the correct one, you are in jail
Yeah it would work.. I don't know a bot which can read colors ,but if this will be released im sure there will be a reader for this too..

Re: Against bots

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:42 am
by streamsss
Lee can you share your protect?)

Re: Against bots

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:35 am
by savormix
B1ggBoss wrote:Try this:
Randomnly a color is generated.
Then, and html with 4 liks with different colors pop up, 1, the randomly generated
If you dont click the correct one, you are in jail
Unless you are not specifying the correct color in the html, it's useless...

Bots can read the whole packet, and can easily extract the needed data. And the RequestBypassToServer can be made up if needed.